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Article: 7 November 2017
Myth of Vegetarianism
Part 1: Scientific, Historical and Scriptural Evidence

Dr Ong Hean-Tatt Ph.D.

Read carefully these facts-based articles on the myth of vegetarianism, as you may save your health, life and children's physical and mental development!

These discussions are part of "Oneness Metaphysics" contributions to human welfare, harmonisation and happiness

The ancient cultures' scriptures back to 1700 BC and before all advocate meat eating. Vegetarianism arose during the 700 BC.

Modern science has finally shown that plants also have feelings and emotions like animals and Man?! If you do not want to eat meat because you think animals have feelings, then do not eat plants too, for plants also have feelings!

Modern medical evidence also found that the vegetarian diet has serious deficiencies which can led to irreparable health damages. (see Parts 1 and 2)

There is a crucial reason why vegetarianism is not only scientifically unnatural and unhealthy for Man, but also subjugates the true worship of God! (see Part 3)

  • Myth of Vegetarianism Part 1: Scientific, Historical and Scriptural Evidence
  • Myth of Vegetarianism Part 2: The Medical Evidence Against Vegetarianism
  • Myth of Vegetarianism Part 3: Meat Eating as Superior Spiritual Moral than Vegetarianism

  • Scientific evidence that all religions take the same road to God.
    Research from over 1,000 years old texts and traditions.

    Figure 1. Many misguided people insist in vegetarianism as a "holier life".


    The ancient scriptures before 1700 BC reject the doctrine of reincarnation and also vegetarianism. The doctrine of reincarnation emerged only in the middle of the first millennium BC and vegetarianism emerged as a religious doctrine only in 700 BC. There are reasons to believe that the doctrine of vegetarianism arose as a result of belief in reincarnation.

    • In the dawn of Biblical history, the Holy Bible records an incident of around 4000 BC which weighs heavily against vegetarianism. In this incident (Genesis 4:2-8) , Abel the son of Adam offered an animal sacrifice to God. Cain, his brother, avoided animal sacrifices and offered a sacrifice of vegetables. God rejected Cain's vegetarian sacrifice and gave Abel greater honour. The slighted Cain murdered Abel and was cursed by God.

      A while earlier God had slain a lamb to make clothings for Adam and Eve.

      Then, around 2458 BC, just after the flood Noah offered animals sacrifices to God.

      • "Every creature that lives shall be yours to eat; as with the green grasses, I give you all these" (Genesis. 9:3).

      Around 1458 BC, the Holy Bible states:

      • When the Lord your God shall broaden your borders, as He has promised you, and you will say, "I shall eat meat," for your soul shall desire to eat meat—you may eat meat to your soul's desire. (Deuteronomy 12:20–23)

      The Holy Bible shows that ancient sacrifices were offered to God since 4000 BC. In parallel time, animal sacrifices were also offered by all the other ancient cultures. The Hindu Samhita Vedas of 1700 BC and before recorded animal sacrifices of cattle, goats and horses and the Hindu gods particularly associated with these animal sacrifces were Indra and Agni. The sacrifices were often made during festivals where the meat would be eaten.

    Wikipedia (Wikipedia 2017. Vegetarianism. notes: "Many people object to eating meat out of respect for sentient life. Such ethical motivations have been codified under various religious beliefs, as well as animal rights advocacy. Other motivations for vegetarianism are health-related, political, environmental, cultural, aesthetic, economic, or personal preference. "

    If you ask the person why he believes in being a vegetarian, he may answer that he "respects life". One should not brush this aside in a condescending way that everyone has his right. For, if you carefully examine the answer, that person is implying that if you are not a vegetarian, you do not respect life.

    In another word, the vegetarian believes he is "more holy than you"!

    Such a "more holy than you" stand should be evaluated, as scientific evidence shows it is unscientific, unhealthy and the ancient scriptures do not support it. Now, vegetarianism is supposed to originate from Hinduism. But the surprising thing is that, as we will discuss later, the Hindu Vedas do not support vegetarianism but even urge one to eat animal meat!

    Figure 2. Teeth in Carnivores, Herbivores and Mixed

    Middle: Herbivores.
    Bottom: Mixed

    Scientific Evidence Against Vegetarianism for Man

    What would science tells about eating food? There can be contradictory confusing scientific arguments offered for either meat eating or vegetable eating in Man.

    Well, you will find that science classifies three main types of eating habits with their characteristic teeth structures:

    • Herbivores:
      Eat mainly vegetables.
      Teeth have prominent incisors and body pad for chewing grass. Normally have large diastema (gap between back and front sets of teeth) for grinding vegetation.
      For examples, cattle, sheep, rabbits

      Eat mainly meat
      Teeth have prominent sharp claw-like canines for tearing meat
      For examples, wildcats, dog

      Eat both meat and vegetables
      Teeth are between those of herbivores and carnivores
      For examples, bears, pig, man
      A special class of omnivores are the fructivores, who eat mostly fruits and nuts, but also consume meat at times. An example is the chimpanzee.

    The three different classes of food eaters are defined by their teeth structures. Carnivores and herbivores have teeth systems designed respectively for eating meat or vegetables. Vegetarians tried to argue that Man has herbivore teeth. But, this is not scientifically true, as Man has teeth which are designed for chewing meat and vegetables, and not either exclusively. Herbivores often have large diastema for facilitating grinding vegetation and this is not significant in human teeth. The teeth in Man are created by God to allow Man to eat both meat and vegetables! Hence, vegetarianism for Man is an unnatural thing! A mix of meat and vegetables form the natural diet for Man!

    • The ancestors of Homo sapiens cooked their food, cooking has been around for approximately a million year (that is around 500 000 years longer than the human species has existed) (Berna et al., 2012; Organ, Nunn, Machanda, & Wrangham, 2011). Traces of humans eating meat is also ancient and seems to have been around for as long as our species existed (Pobiner, 2013). One of our closest relatives the chimpanzee also eats an omnivorus diet with mainly fruits, but occasionally eats animals (McGrew, 1983). (veganbiologist. January 4, 2016. Humans are not herbivores.

    Historically, humans fed by hunting and feeding mainly on animals. It was only later than crop cultivation started and Man could harvest vegetables products for food.

    Vegetarians may like to think they are in harmony with Nature. A key point overlooked by vegetarians is that God created carnivores with their carnivorous teeth. That is, Nature has animals which are carnivores. These carnivores could not well become vegetarians! You may say God created these meat eating carnivores and designed them to eat meat. God would not have a special preference for vegetarianism or a "respect for life" advocated by vegetarians!

    If you are a vegetarian, will you expect your animal pets to be vegetarians? Read this:

    • Canine and feline bodies are not built to subsist singularly on plant matter; both cats and dogs evolved to subsist on a meat-based diet - dogs as opportunistic omnivores and cats as obligate carnivores. Dogs on a vegan diet are very likely to suffer from malnourishment that will drastically affect their quality of life, while vegan-fed cats are guaranteed to be sick and risk death from malnutrition. Recent research into the evolutionary history and gastrointestinal tracts of both dogs and cats proves that it is unwise, if not outright cruel, to feed them a truly vegan diet. (Rachel Garner. December 27, 2016. Why Vegan Diets Will Kill Your Cat (and Sicken Your Dog). )

    If you do the above owing to a belief in vegetarianism, you will be cruel to these animals!

    Figure 3a. Nature's Food Chain
    where animals feed one on another

    Nature's Food Chain:
    Carnivores, Herbivores, Omnivores

    A significant flaw in the vegetarian's mindset is that they do not realise the significance that God's Nature is full of several "food chains", where animals feed or have to feed upon each other. Therre are even plants which eat animals! It is wrong to say that "a carnivorous diet is clearly not God's preference".

    Figure 3b. Nature's Food Chain
    has animals at higher strata Feeding upon lower strata of animals.

    The ultimate bottom of the food chain would be planktons (both phytoplanktons and zooplanktons) and plants. These planktons and plants would be eaten by animals. In turn, these animals would be eaten by other animals (which are often carnivores).

    Figure 3c. God Made Lion as a Carnivore
    They said God made us as vegetarians. What am I going to eat?. .

    Figure 3d. God Made Tiger as a Carnivore
    Me too. That other day the guy told me to be a vegetarian. So, I ate him, as he was made of vegetables. .

    The root of vegetarianism is a so-called "respect for life". If God respects life in the way of vegetarians God would not have created carnivores, along with a Nature food chain to cater for them. God created carnivores and thus have none of the so-called "respect for life" purported by vegetarians. The "respect life" argument of the vegetarian is just a significant lack of scientific comprehension of God creating herbivores, carnivores and omnivores to coexist in Nature's food chains.

    As far as Man is concerned, God and Nature give Man teeth for eating both meat and vegetables.

    Figure 4a. Sir Chandra Bose.
    He used electrometer to show that plants have feelings.

    Figure 4b. Below: Sir Benard Shaw.
    Shaw was a vegetarian. He visited Chandra Bose and was shocked to see demonstrations of feelings by plants.

    Plants, like Animals, also Have Feelings!

    Vegetarians shrunk from eating meat as they feel that the feelings of animals are hurt. However, modern science shows that plants also have feelings!

    Sir Jagdish Chandra Bose and Backster carried out well-known experiments, which showed that plants can detect the thoughts and feelings of human beings. They hooked up a plant to the polygraph and had the thought to burn one of the plant's leaves. The polygraph spiked in respond to their thought - only the thought of doing so and not the actual burning of one of its leaves. Through further research, Backster found that it was his intent, and not merely the thought itself, that brought about this reaction.

    • one day he [Sir Jagdish Chandra Bose] decided to hook up a plant to the polygraph. He fiddled around for about fifteen minutes and got no reaction on the polygraph. He wasn't quite ready to try questioning the plant so he had the thought to burn one of the plant's leaves. His life-changing moment came when the polygraph spiked in reaction to his thought — only the thought of doing so — not the actual burning of one of its leaves. You can imagine his shock. Did the plant just read his mind? Did the plant perceive some other subtle change in his behavior as he had the thought? How does this work? Can Plants Read Our Thoughts? Danielle Graham. SPRING 2011. Cleve Backster's Work with Plants and Lie Detectors /

    The well known Sir Benard Shaw visited Chandra Bose and witnessed the plants "screaming" when cooked. Sir Benard Shaw was an avowed vegetarian as he believed that eating animals was cruel. But when he witnessed that plants also have similar sensory as animals he shuddered about his vegetarian diet!

    The animal would be dead when its meat was prepared for eating. But vegetables can be eaten raw. Well, would not these vegetables be "screaming" in your mouth?!

    I suppose some vegetarians also recognise plants have feelings:

    • Good Jains are exceptional examples of nonviolence and vegetarianism. Jainism, a deeply ascetic religion mainly centered in India, mandates that adherents refrain from harming even the simplest of life forms. Jains even follow dietary codes regulating the types of plants they eat. (Jane Srivastava. April/May/June 2007 > Vegetarianism and Meat-Eating in 8 Religions.

    One cynic exclaimed, "What? So, do we end up with eating only ice?"

    A good statement is: There are those who contest the morality of eating meat. What gives man the right to consume another creature's flesh? But the same can be said of man's consumption of vegetable life, water or oxygen. What gives man the right to devour any of God's creations simply to perpetuate his own existence?

    • Many religious meat eating scholars recognise everything in God's creation has life, be it Man, animals, plants and even stones. It is just that they recognise the life in Man is Divine and much higher than those in other things.

    The fact is that God created plants to be eaten and also many animals to be eaten by other animals. Of course, some of you would have heard of carnivorous plants which eat animals. There are also bacteria and viruses which can kill Man and animals - why did God create them? All these eating of plants and animals are part of God designed Nature.

    Figure 4c. Plants Have Feelings
    Aaaahh... don't eat us! We have feelings! .


    Figure 4d. Plants Which Eat Animals
    Animals eat us. We eat them back! .


    The ancient Hindu Vedas dated before 1700 BC and contain verses showing there were animals sacrifices and eating of animals sacrificed. Even sacrificed cattle were eaten! The doctrine of vegetarianism was not inherent in Hinduiism and arose only in 700 BC.


    Hindu Vedas Against Vegetarianism

    Nature, something which God created, is conspicuously full of natural food chains where animals have to eat animals. Certainly, God would not have that false sense of "respect for life" advocated by vegetarians.

    God had to give carnivores those sharp carnivourous teeth designed to tear meat. Were animals like lions and tigers herbivores created first and then their "herbivores teeth" changed into carnivores teeth?

    Thus, to advocate vegetarianism as a "sacred holy way of life" is absurd. For God does not see it that way when He created the Natures food chains and the carnivores.

    From where did belief in vegetarianism arise?

    Wikipedia (Wikipedia 2017. Vegetarianism. notes that the earliest roots of vegetarian beliefs were in the 7th century BC, in the Hindu Indus valley:


    What the Vedas Really Say.

    The remarkable thing is that the far older Hindu Samhitas Vedas, dating back to 1700 BC, actually show that devotees during worship would consume the meat of the sacrificed animals of horses, cattle and goats!:

    • 10 I choose as God for Father-worship Agni, flesh-eater, who hath past within your dwelling, Gladly bring yearning Fathers nigh to eat the food of sacrifice.
      13 Cool, Agni, and again refresh the spot which thou hast scorched and burnt. Here let the water-lily grow, and tender grass and leafy herb.
      14 O full of coolness, thou cool Plant, full of fresh moisture, freshening Herb, Come hither with the female frog: fill with delight this Agni here. (Rigveda Book 10 Hymn 16)

      7 I sweep afar ? for sacrifice to Fathers, corpse-eating Agni who hath come among us Atharva Veda BOOK XIII. Hymn 1.
      29 Let him smite down in death and burn the foeman who attacketh me. Our adversaries we consume through Agni the Carnivorous. Atharva Veda BOOK XII. Hymn 2

      3 Let us serve Agni with our hymns, Sage who consumeth ox and cow. Atharva Veda BOOK XX. HYMN I.

    Though alternative translations by Swami Dayananda Saraswati reject such claims and give the 'correct' interpretations and translations in the light of the Brahmanas and Vedangas. According to Dayananda and Yaska, the author of Nirukta (Vedic Philology), Yatudhana means Cattle -eaters (Yatu - Cattle / flesh of Cattle + Udhana - eaters/ consumers).

    • In Magha days are oxen slain, in Arjuris they wed the bride. —Rig Veda (10.85.13)

      When thrice the men lead round the Steed, in order, who goeth to the Gods as meet oblation,
      The goat precedeth him, the share of Pu?an, and to the Gods the sacrifice announceth. —Dirghatamas, Rig Veda (10.162.4)

      What part of the Steed's flesh the fly hath eaten, or is left sticking to the post or hatchet,
      Or to the slayer's hands and nails adhereth,—among the Gods, too, may all this be with thee.
      Food undigested steaming from his belly, and any odour of raw flesh remaining,
      This let the immolators set in order and dress the sacrifice with perfect cooking.
      —Dirghatamas, Rig Veda (10.162.10)

      They who observing that the Horse is ready call out and say, the smell is good; remove it;
      And, craving meat, await the distribution,—may their approving help promote labour.
      The trial-fork of the flesh-cooking caldron, the vessels out of which the broth is sprinkled,
      The warming-pots, the covers of the dishes, hooks, carving-boards,—all these attend the Charger.
      —Dirghatamas, Rig Veda (10.162.12-13)

      The Atharva Veda bans only the eating of the raw flesh, human flesh and fertilized eggs:
      Those who eat flesh uncooked, and those who eat the bleeding flesh of men,
      Feeders on babes unborn, long-haired, far from this place we banish these.
      —Atharva Veda (8.6.23)

      Rigveda (6/17/1) states that "Indra used to eat the meat of cow, calf, horse and buffalo." (translation by Avatar Gill and group)

    Hence, long before vegetarianism arose in the 7th century BC, the Hindu Vedas already testify that worshippers of Hindu deities were already eating meat of animals, including meat of cattle. Some Hindus tried to argue that the Vedas advocate vegetarianism, like this famous often misinterpreted passage:.

    • The fiend who smears himself with flesh of cattle, with flesh of horses and of human bodies, Who steals the milch-cow's milk away, O Agni,—tear off the heads of such with fiery fury.
      The cow gives milk each year, O Man-regarder let not the Yatudhana ever taste it.
      If one would glut him with the biesting, Agni, pierce with thy flame his vitals as he meets thee.
      Let the fiends drink the poison of the cattle; may Aditi cast off the evildoers.
      May the God Savitar give them up to ruin, and be their share of plants and herbs denied them.
      Agni, from days of old thou slayest demons never shall Raksasas in fight o'ercome thee.
      Burn up the foolish ones, the flesh-devourers let none of them escape thine heavenly arrow.
      —Rig Veda (10.87.16-19)

      At first glance, it seems that this passage condemned meat eating. This is a curious wrong interpretation, as Agni was stated in the Vedas as a meat-eater. Also, this group of people ate humans. The people addressed were a wild group of cannibal people. One scholar rightly deciphered that the passage specifically notes the reference was to the "Raksasas", who were often enemies against the devas.

      Some have just quoted the first line above without the other lines to manipulatively give the false impression that the Rigveda condemns meat eating. It is only when the context of the subsequent lines are examined that we can see that the passage was referring to the cannibalistic Raksasas . It was not an issue of meat eating or vegetarianism, but the wicked Raksasas.

    The earliest Vedas are the four Samhitas, existing before 1700 BC and these scriptures abound with references about animals sacrifices, and their meat being eaten by the gods, holy men and the people. There were hardly any passages in the Samhitas about vegetarianism, which seem mostly indicated in so-called Vedic scriptures (actually post-Vedas scriptures) from 1000 BC onwards like the Mahabharata. But, even these post-Vedic scriptures also have references to holy people eating meat. The so-called passages about vegetarianism have to be carefully interpreted.

    It is also post-Vedic scriptures which have strange norms like allowing a woman to have several husbands! You have to be careful of interpreting the post-Vedic texts.

    Buddha never condoned vegetarianism. He even attacked Devadatta's attempt to impose vegetarianism


    Buddha's Attack on Devadatta's Vegetarianism

    Buddhism has an interesting tradition about vegetarianism:

    • The Buddha ate meat. This is a fairly well attested fact. The issue of vegetarianism is addressed a few times in the Suttas, notably the Jivaka Sutta of the Majjhima Nikaya. The Buddha consistently affirmed that monastics were permitted to eat meat, as long as it was not killed intentionally for them. There are numerous passages in the Vinaya that refer to the Buddha or the monastics eating meat, and meat is regularly mentioned as one of the standard foods..... Sometimes in Theravada vegetarianism is slighted, as it is traditionally associated with the '5 points' of Devadatta. Devadatta wanted to prove he was better than the Buddha, so he asked the Buddha to enforce five ascetic practices, such as only accepting alms food, live all their lives in the forest, and so on. These practices are regarded as praiseworthy, and Devadatta's fault was not in promoting these as such, but in seeking to make them compulsory. Stories of the Buddha's childhood emphasize how compassionate he was compared to Devadatta's cruelty to animals, perhaps because of Devadatta's asscoiation with vegetarianism. So rather than deprecating the vegetarians as 'followers of Devadatta', one could infer from this passage that vegetarianism, like the other practices, was praiseworthy, but the Buddha did not wish to make it compulsory. (Sujato's Blog. 2017. Why Buddhists Should be Vegetarian.

      In fact, in the Vinaya-pitaka, the Buddha himself specifically refused to make vegetarianism mandatory. Devadatta, the Buddha's cousin and rival, approaches the Buddha with the idea of making vegetarianism mandatory for the sangha. The Vinaya-pitaka reports the following:

      • Then Devadatta together with his friends went up to the Lord, and having gone up to the Lord, he sat down to one side. As he was sitting to one side, Devadatta said to the Lord: "….Lord, these five items are in many a way condu-cive to desiring little, to contentment, to expunging evil, to being [conscientious], to what is gracious, to decrease in the obstructions, to putting forth energy. It were good, Lord, if the monks, for as long as life lasts, let them be rag-robe wearers; whoever should accept a robe given by a householder, sin (vajja.) would besmirch him. For as long as life lasts, let them live at the root of a tree; whoever should go under cover, sin would besmirch him. For as long as life lasts let them not eat fish or flesh; whoever should eat fish or flesh, sin would besmirch him.' The recluse Gotama will not allow these. (CV vii 277)30 (James J. Stewart. 2010. The Question of Vegetarianism and Diet in Pali Buddhism. Journal of Buddhist Ethics ISSN 1076-9005 Volume 17, 2010 )

    So, back in around 600 BC, the Lord Buddha rejected vegetarianism as mandatory.

    For some reason, the period of around 700 BC saw the emergence of the doctrine of vegetarianism. It influenced people like Devadatta. But the Lord Buddha rejected the vegetarianism stand.

    • When a brahmin confronts Buddha and proceeds to refer to the bad and dangerous consequences of eating fish and flesh, the Buddha counters by referring at length to what he regards as the real moral defilement, such as anger, intoxication, deceit, envy, pride, non-payments of debts, slandering and the like. (Susunaga Weeraperuma 2003. Nirvana: The Highest Happiness.

    The Holy Bible would also have no support for vegetarianism. This is because in the Old Testament Mosaic religious system, there were laws defining "clean and unclean meat". "Clean meat" could be eaten, showing that the Old Testament Mosaic religious system allowed meat eating. Do not forget that the Holy Bible records animal sacrifices back in 4000 BC.

    Vegetarianism thus has no support from the ancient scriptures .... and neither from science!

    B12, Cobalamin

    B12 is vital for blood and nervious system health. B12 is not found in fungi, plants and animals. It is manufactured by bacteria and can be found in guts of animals, especially ruminants and would be stored especially in liver tissues. Man has to obtain his B12 from eating meat!


    Health Myths about Vegetarianism: The B12 Factor

    There have been claims that vegetarian diet is more healthy than meat eating. Well, Wikipedia (Wikipedia 2017. Vegetarianism. also shows vegetarianism offers no health benefits, but have some serious adverse health effects:

    • Studies on the health effects of vegetarian diets observe heterogeneous effects on mortality. One review found a decreased overall risk of all cause mortality, cancer (except breast) and cardiovascular disease; however, a meta-analysis found lower risk for ischemic heart disease and cancer but no effect on overall mortality or cerebrovascular disease. Possible limitations include varying definitions used of vegetarianism, and the observation of increased risk of lung cancer mortality in those on a vegetarian diet for less than five years. An analysis pooling two large studies found vegetarians in the UK have similar all cause mortality as meat eaters. An older meta analysis found similar results, only finding decreased mortality in vegetarians, pescatarians, and irregular meat eaters in ischemic heart disease, but not from any other cause..... The American Dietetic Association has presented evidence that vegetarian diets may be more common among adolescents with eating disorders.

    However, in contrast to the ambiguity about whether a meat or vegetarian diet is more healthy, a key medical factor is that Man requires B12 vitamin.

    • Vitamin B12 is essential for the manufacture of red blood cells; a deficiency leads to a characteristic kind of anemia Vitamin B12 is needed to support the normal function of nerve cells, and to manufacture myelin, the insulating material that surrounds some of our nerve cells and speeds neural transmission Vitamin B12 is required for the replication of DNA (David L. Katz,1/10/2012. Vitamin B12: The Most Important Nutrient You Aren't Thinking About.

    Vegans may not realise that Man can only get the vital B12 from animal meat products!

    • Food. Vitamin B12 is naturally found in animal products, including fish, meat, poultry, eggs, milk, and milk products. Vitamin B12 is generally not present in plant foods , but fortified breakfast cereals are a readily available source of vitamin B12 with high bioavailability for vegetarians (Health Professional. 5,13-15].Feb 11, 2016. Dietary Supplement Fact Sheet: Vitamin B12

      No fungi, plants, or animals (including humans) are capable of producing vitamin B12. Only bacteria and archaea have the enzymes needed for its synthesis.... B12 is produced in nature only by some prokaryotes (certain bacteria and archaea); it is not made by any multicellular or single-celled eukaryotes. It is synthesized by some gut bacteria in humans and other animals, but humans cannot absorb the B12 made in their guts, as it is made in the colon which is too far from the small intestine, where absorption of B12 occurs. Ruminants, such as cows and sheep, absorb B12 produced by bacteria in their guts . For gut bacteria of ruminants to produce B12 the animal must consume sufficient amounts of cobalt. (Wikipedia. 2017. Vitamin B12.

    Much recent research, of almost up to date, which vegetarians are trying to ignore or contest, consistently show that significant numbers of vegetarians can suffer from B12 deficiency:

    • June 18, 2003 -- Researchers have long known that a strict vegetarian diet -- one that excludes all animal products -- can lead to vitamin B-12 deficiency, and possibly heart disease. Now, new research suggests that even those who follow a more lenient vegetarian diet are also at risk. ... They found that 92% of the vegans they studied -- those who ate the strictest vegetarian diet, which shuns all animal products, including milk and eggs -- had vitamin B12 deficiency. But two in three people who followed a vegetarian diet that included milk and eggs as their only animal foods also were deficient. Only 5% of those who consumed meats had vitamin B12 deficiency(Sid Kirchheimer. 2003. Vegetarian Diet and B12 Deficiency. Vitamin B12 Deficiency Seen in All Types of Vegetarians. › Food & Recipes › News)

      Vegetarian diets have been associated with atherosclerosis protection, with healthier atherosclerosis risk profiles, as well as lower prevalence of, and mortality from, ischemic heart disease and stroke. However, there are few data concerning the possible cardiovascular effects of a vegan diet (with no meat, dairy or egg products). Vitamin B-12 deficiency is highly prevalent in vegetarians; this can be partially alleviated by taking dairy/egg products in lact-ovo-vegetarians. However, metabolic vitamin B-12 deficiency is highly prevalent in vegetarians in Australia, Germany, Italy and Austria, and in vegans (80%) in Hong Kong and India, where vegans rarely take vitamin B-12 fortified food or vitamin B-12 supplements. Similar deficiencies exist in northern Chinese rural communities consuming inadequate meat, egg or dairy products due to poverty or dietary habits. Vascular studies have demonstrated impaired arterial endothelial function and increased carotid intima-media thickness as atherosclerosis surrogates in such metabolic vitamin B-12 deficient populations, but not in lactovegetarians in China. Vitamin B-12 supplementation has a favourable impact on these vascular surrogates in Hong Kong vegans and in underprivileged communities in northern rural China. Regular monitoring of vitamin B-12 status is thus potentially beneficial for early detection and treatment of metabolic vitamin B-12 deficiency in vegans, and possibly for prevention of atherosclerosis-related diseases. (Kam S. Woo,1,* Timothy C.Y. Kwok,2 and David S. Celermajer3. August 19, 2014. Vegan Diet, Subnormal Vitamin B-12 Status and Cardiovascular Health. › NCBI › Literature › PubMed Central (PMC))

      Animal foods are the only sources of vitamin B12 in the human diet, outside of supplements. The absorption of vitamin B12 is determined by a number of our genes, therefore must have been there over the evolution of humanity. Does this mean that people have to eat animal foods? Does the need for vitamin B12 mean that a 100% plant-based diet is unhealthy? No! The presence or absence of animal-based foods does not affect whether a diet is healthy. The healthiness of a diet is determined by whether it nourishes us, i.e. its actual nutrient content. Advances in nutrition science and industrial production of small, complex molecules have allowed us to produce vitamin B12 without the need for eating animals. Eat meat or avoid it, it's your choice.
      Even so, vegans are at greater risk of vitamin B12 deficiency than ovo-lactovegetarians or omnivores (see review from Pawlak and co-workers), and this is logical as they do not obtain vitamin B12 from their food. Vegans should be aware of the lack of a source of vitamin B12 in their diet and either undergo regular testing for deficiency, or take a vitamin B12 supplement. (Julia Bird. Tue Mar 15 2016. The Other Vitamin B12 Controversy: Must We Eat Meat?

    Doctor Giving Liver Extract Injection

    Vegetarian reply: That is okay, as it is a medicine not a food.


    The medical evidence is that vegetarians can suffer serious blood-related diseases. One vegan who was trying unconvincingly to contest the findings that vegetarians can suffer from B12 deficiency even tried to play safe by recommending vegans to take B12 supplements under certain conditions:

    • "I knew forty years ago that vitamin B12 would become the last bastion for meat-and dairy-lovers (and the industries that profit from them), because this is the only criticism with any merit that could be lodged against the McDougall Diet (a plant diet). In order to avoid that condemnation and the small risk of harming anyone, I have recommended and printed in the beginning of my books and DVDs the following advice: If you follow the McDougall Diet for more than 3 years, or if you are pregnant or nursing, then take a minimum of 5 micrograms of supplemental vitamin B12 each day." John McDougall, MD (Katz M. January 22, 2012. Exploring the Truth of Vitamin B12 and Vegans.

    There are too much scientific medical evidence of B12 deficiency among vegetarians. Let not vegetarians stubbornly continue to ignore the scientific medical evidence, which is that Man has to eat meat products to get his vital B12.

    Some ex-vegans finally admitted they were wrong and reverted from vegetarianism to meat eating:

    • C.R. writes: As someone who used to be vegetarian and even vegan for many years in my past, I remember being leery of people telling me my diet might be lacking certain nutrients. I'd point to studies which showed how healthy a balanced and well-thought out vegetarian diet was.
      Was my diet balanced and well-thought out? Only occasionally.
      This week we got a comment on a post (Could Vitamin B12 Help Your Anxiety, Depression?) that reminded me of this whole discussion. And just last week I got a call from a strictly-vegan friend of mine who was diagnosed with Seasonal Affective Disorder a couple of years ago, and depression last year.
      At the time, I suggested she supplement with B12, as well as fish oil, Vitamin D3, and get tested for vitamin deficiencies and anemia. She told me her husband persuaded her to eat liver twice a week when she was diagnosed with mild anemia, and she told me in our recent conversation that since she's been eating meat (she added lamb, turkey and free-range beef to her diet last July) her depression has all but disappeared.
      Is this a prescription for everyone? No, of course not. But if you've been diagnosed with depression, take a good hard look at your diet. Many dietary issues, from abuse of alcohol to excessive sugary desserts to food allergies which trigger digestive complaints to yes, lack of B12 and other nutrients (such as Essential Fatty Acids, Proteins, Saturated Fats, and so on) may contribute to depression. (Richard Zwolinski, LMHC, CASAC & C.R. Zwolinski. Nov 24, 2014. Vegans, Vitamin B12 & Depression, Top 10 Controversial Posts. › Bipolar Disorder › Blogs › Therapy Soup)

      • PS. This post is interesting, as it reminds me of my late chemist father's comments. He told me that one vegetarian was examined by a doctor for some serious illness. The doctor found that the vegetarian had a blood disorder. So, the doctor told the patient the doctor was going to give him an injection of liver extract. The vegetarian was horrified and exclaimed that he was a vegetarian. The doctor said that there was no alternative. Then the vegetarian came back to see the doctor and told him he had discussed the issue with his guru. His guru said he could take the liver injection as it was a medicine and not a food. Quite an unusual way to bypass the issue!

    So, again, there are too much scientific medical evidence of B12 deficiency among vegetarians. Let not vegetarians stubbornly ignore the scientific medical evidence, which is that Man has to eat meat products to get his vital B12.

    • While here we concentrate on discussing B12, recent medical evidence also show that the strict vegan diet will also lead to deficiencies in B6, iodine and taurine (EPA) and omega-3 (DHA).

    Vegetarianism is not only unscriptural but is also a dangerous unhealthy diet.



    So, ask people from where they got the basis of their "moral" beliefs. Check with the ancient scriptures.

    • And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Isaiah 8:19-20

    Always check from the ancient scriptures for your beliefs and do not let people con you!

    In comments reportedly made during a press briefing for her new movie SALT, Angelina Jolie discussed her bad experiences with a vegan diet. "I joke that a big juicy steak is my beauty secret," said Jolie. "But seriously, I love red meat. I was a vegan for a long time, and it nearly killed me. I found I was not getting enough nutrition." (Mercola. Jospeh. September 17, 2010. Angelina Jolie - The Vegan Diet that Almost Killed Her.

    In the Jataka Tales, the rabbit was a vegetarian. But, Sayka (Indra), the crocodile and fox ate meat. The monkey was a fructivore. Real or allegories?


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